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| Sat, 01 Sep 2012, 16:57 | |
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CodersRule |
I honestly wasn't sure that I wasn't going absolutely crazy at first, and finding it online was harder than I'd expected. It seems all the complaints are from awhile ago, but are definitely legitimate. I see people complaining about the episode "A Good Man Goes To War", but the episode I was watching was "Let's Kill Hitler". I just watched the episode using *cough*other means*cough*, and thought it was interesting. The end was a funny twist. I'd like to see how that plays out. I suppose I'm glad that Amy and Rory are back together, though I wish they had done the "separated" thing for a bit longer: The lack of realism of their magical eternal relationship was kind of bugging me at the end of the last season. 
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| Sun, 02 Sep 2012, 00:17 | |
Jayenkai
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Fantastic episode, I must say. Definitely worth the wait. We've now got 4 more episodes, one each Saturday, then Red Dwarf on the Thursday afterwards! That oughta keep me busy for a bit. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
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| Sun, 02 Sep 2012, 01:42 | |
spinal
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Helen has just pointed out to me that the new companion is darlek girl (forgot her name). Does that mean Dr will be interfering with his own timeline to prevent her from crashing into the planet, or, grab her from an earlier point in time, then eventually put her back, knowing she will be turned into a darlek when she crashes...
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| Sun, 02 Sep 2012, 01:46 | |
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Jayenkai
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There's no r in dalek! No idea what'll happen. May be a different character, but that seems unlikely given how much they've worked to keep this a secret. Very odd scenario! Can't wait to see what happens! -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
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| Sun, 02 Sep 2012, 11:42 | |
Jayenkai
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| Fri, 07 Sep 2012, 18:26 | |
JL235
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I found it a bit mixed. The first half of the episode was too over dramatic, with too many orchestral stuff, with nothing really happening. It's not very intense if they are surrounded by tonnes of daleks, with just a long drawn out piece of dialogue to work through. The second half when they went down the asylum, that half started to get good, and ended pretty great. Hopefully the series will pick though. Both of Matt Smith's series so far are excellent, and he is waaaaaaaaaaay better than David Tennant. |
| Sun, 09 Sep 2012, 00:39 | |
rockford
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Absolutely loved last night's episode. Very silly, but fun all the way. Excellent. More like this please. It was the best Matt Smith episode yet, IMHO.
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| Sun, 09 Sep 2012, 01:43 | |
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Jayenkai
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I didn't enjoy last nights episode as much as I thought I would. Perhaps it got overhyped as the "comedy" episode? Enjoyable, but not as laugh out loud as I was expecting it to be.
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| Sun, 09 Sep 2012, 04:51 | |
shroom_monk
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Not as good as the first one, but certainly far better than I expected of it. I thought the MitchellAndWebbBots singing Daisy Daisy when they were shut down was a nice touch. 
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| Sat, 29 Sep 2012, 13:37 | |
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Jayenkai
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A lovely ending! Roll on Xmas! Red Dwarf's back on Thursday 
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| Sat, 29 Sep 2012, 16:11 | |
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shroom_monk
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I have to say, I have mixed reactions to this episode. It felt like they wrote their big set pieces first then tried to glue them together. The whole reason for getting rid of Amy and Rory felt rather forced. Why would seeing Rory's gravestone and then seeing him get sent into the past force the Doctor to never be able to see him again? So long as he was buried at that point (assuming it wasn't some other guy with the same name, which isn't impossible), what was to stop the Doctor from nipping back and picking him up? Even if the Tardis couldn't land their due to temporal-plot-devices, they've already established that a Vortex Manipulator most probably could, so that's not really an issue. I guess it just felt odd that everyone's immediate reaction was 'Rory is gone this must definitely be a lost cause with no wait out'. -=-=- A mushroom a day keeps the doctor away... Keep It Simple, Shroom! |
| Sun, 30 Sep 2012, 01:39 | |
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spinal
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Rory died all the time. Apparently Rory and Ami both being zipped back in time and dying and the Doc knowing about it, fixes that point in history so he can't do anything about it. That event is sealed off from timeloard tampering, much like the timewar. Why? I have no idea, not that big a fan to try to understand it.
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| Sun, 30 Sep 2012, 05:18 | |
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Jayenkai
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Oh, you are, too, you big liar A paradox had already been created in New York. Add the "fixed point" issue, and you've got two reasons for the TARDIS not to go back there. Seems reasonable to me! Sure, random plot device, but you've got to have a few of those, somewhere, otherwise nobody would ever die, as the doctor could just keep crossing himself, saving them over and over again. I did enjoy Rory's little poke at his own multiple deaths, thought that was fun
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| Sun, 30 Sep 2012, 07:37 | |
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shroom_monk
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But all he knows is that Rory has to be buried at that particular time and place. What's to stop him from hopping back, picking him up, then returning him there when he gets old? (Ok, yes, I'm being picky, but I find it hard to take scenes in which characters are being very emotional at all seriously when no adequate explanation is given for why a suddenly introduced plot device must be so [I don't recall a reason ever being given for being unable to pick someone up from the past just because an Angel sent them there]) -=-=- A mushroom a day keeps the doctor away... Keep It Simple, Shroom! |
| Sun, 30 Sep 2012, 08:18 | |
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rockford
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 But all he knows is that Rory has to be buried at that particular time and place. What's to stop him from hopping back, picking him up, then returning him there when he gets old? Actually the Doctor doesn't know when either died - there's no date on the gravestone (obviously he could go to Hall Of Records or whatever it's called and find out, but that's by and by).  Better than the last Weeping Angels episodes (which were shit), but nowhere near as good as "Blink" |
| Sun, 30 Sep 2012, 11:17 | |
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shroom_monk
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|edit| I thought I found a way around that, then realised you must be right. Well pointed out.  |edit|
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| Sun, 30 Sep 2012, 12:28 | |
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JL235
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I thought it was excellent! Waaaay better than any other episode this series.
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| Fri, 05 Oct 2012, 17:20 | |
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JL235
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If they could go back and send stuff to Amy and Rory, like a book to be published, why didn't they just send them a letter saying 'leave new york, meet me in China'. Clearly they also had some freedoms after going back, since they were able to publish a book. Then the Dr could have just picked them up in China instead, and taken them home. Done. |
| Fri, 05 Oct 2012, 18:01 | |
9572AD
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New York is guarded by hordes of Angels who keep all their victims locked in, remember?
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 00:01 | |
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JL235
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I remember that, but they can't be doing that well of a job, if their victims can go around publishing books.
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 02:12 | |
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shroom_monk
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Weren't they all destroyed / messed up in the paradox anyway?
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 03:46 | |
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CodersRule |
shroom_monk Weren't they all destroyed / messed up in the paradox anyway?They mentioned early on in the show that as a time traveller, you'd still remember things that didn't actually happen. Otherwise, you'd have that problem where you send yourself back in time, fix a problem, and then cause a paradox because the problem you sent yourself back for would never have existed for you to go back and fix. That's why the Doctor can remember what happened with the Master, and why they also haven't forgotten about the end of the world with the exploding TARDIS.
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 07:37 | |
shroom_monk
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But the angles would surely still be destroyed?
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 07:41 | |
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Jayenkai
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Yeah, the paradox has destroyed them. They no longer exist, so Ay and Rory will have a nice peaceful life, whenever it is that they are.
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 09:28 | |
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9572AD
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I had figured the surviving angel un-paradoxed the paradox since Rory not being kept back in time since he was old and kept there in the present was the paradox and the Angel re-sent him back - which would mean the other Angels would not have been destroyed by a paradox that never happened. I suppose Rory could have gone and killed himself again to re-paradox the whole thing. Time Travel stories never have a neat logical conclusion, do they? -=-=- All the raw, animal magnetism of a rutabaga.
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| Sat, 06 Oct 2012, 10:33 | |
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JL235
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Why would sending them back undo the paradox? All angels get destroyed, bar one, who sends Rory and Amy back in time. Done. Still begs the question, why didn't they just leave New York? |
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