Games in psychology

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Sun, 01 May 2011, 05:10
Afr0	This is something I've often wondered. People claim that violent games are to blame for increased violence in the society. I'm not quite sure I buy that argument. Do you think that letting people who are already prone to violence (say, [serial-]murderers) play violent games would increase or decrease their chance of killing a person again? What about rapists? White-collar criminals? What are your thoughts? -=-=- Afr0 Games Project Dollhouse on Github - Please fork!
Sun, 01 May 2011, 06:14
9572AD	I think they've got good statistics, but they're reading them the wrong way around. Violent games don't make violent people, violent people seek out violent games. -=-=- All the raw, animal magnetism of a rutabaga.
Sun, 01 May 2011, 14:10
Stealth	It's the idea of 'normalizing topics'. If you are exposed to something casually enough then you become desensitized to it. Although this isn't directly related to someone actually committing a violent act. -=-=- Quit posting and try Google.
Sun, 01 May 2011, 17:14
steve_ancell	While the squares go on about banning violent VGs, no one say's anything about banning football do they?. Football hooliganism has caused more deaths over the years than VGs and most crime put together!
Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:26
Jayenkai	Well said, steve!
Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:35
Afr0	It's the idea of 'normalizing topics'. If you are exposed to something casually enough then you become desensitized to it. Although this isn't directly related to someone actually committing a violent act. Exactly. So you'd think if it has that impact on a normal, sane person, maybe it would have the opposite effect on an insane individual? -=-=- Afr0 Games Project Dollhouse on Github - Please fork!
Mon, 02 May 2011, 03:51
spinal	I think people who have been raised properly with a healthy balance of care and discipline have nothing to worry about in terms of being corrupted by movies or video games. However, in the last 20 or so years the do gooders have been telling people that they can not discipline their kids in any meaningful way. You now get to the point, where those undisciplined kids are having kids of their own and we are now in a country where a lot of young parents can not and just don't want to control their children, nor will the accept any help or advice from others, saying things like "what right do you have to tell me how to raise my child" etc. When I was young, there was nothing wrong with being told off by adults other than my parents, such as neighbours, teachers etc. When that happens now, the parent sides with the child, rather than the other adult and manages to turn the whole situation around to be the fault of that person, rather than that of the child who just stomped on their flowers or broke a window or other such acts. Just a couple of decades ago, it was perfectly acceptable for children to get a slap off a police officer/teacher/other respectable adult, I personally think a healthy balance of positive and negative reinforcement possible and that it works well in quickly asserting what is and isn't acceptable behaviour. I think that a violent society is probably caused by an uneven balance, either those people were punished too much (there is a very big difference between beating a child and giving them a slap now and then) and have learned that beating people up is the 'normal' thing to do, or on the other hand, not punished enough and learned that they can do anything they want without any consequences. Either way, they act out violently because they can. -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Mon, 02 May 2011, 05:11
steve_ancell	spinal Just a couple of decades ago, it was perfectly acceptable for children to get a slap off a police officer My local bobby used to have that action finely tuned. He knew the exact part of ear to aim for, the bit that feels like it has shrunk and pulled tight after a swift clip! \|edit\| The top of the ear used to tingle for about half an hour too! \|edit\|
Mon, 02 May 2011, 06:36
steve_ancell	Jayenkai Well said, steve! I'm glad someone agrees!
Mon, 02 May 2011, 08:07
JL235	steve_ancell While the squares go on about banning violent VGs, no one say's anything about banning football do they?. Football hooliganism has caused more deaths over the years than VGs and most crime put together! There is far too much football hooliganism, and I totally agree that it's far worse then violent games, but most crime is not related to football hooliganism. My dad used to work at a special school and lots of the kids there weren't disabled in any way; they had simply had a terrible upbringing and education. He saw first hand both the children and their backgrounds, and generally the kids homes were always to blame for producing well or badly behaved kids. The parents really are to blame.
Mon, 02 May 2011, 11:45
steve_ancell	JL235 The parents really are to blame Well, yes and no, it's not always the parents, there's also the scenario where a kid from a completely stable family hangs out with other kids in school. These other kids could come from dysfunctional families though and there behaviour can sometimes rub-off on the potentially good kids. There can also be other factors, such as ADHD and Asperger's Syndrome. In this case, if the parent doesn't know how to deal with it, he/she could also grow-up to be a complete arsehole. The trouble is, ADHD and other similar disorders weren't understood or recognised in decades gone by. These disorders have since snowballed and when these people grew-up, there kids sometimes behaved accordingly. Some of these kids have also developed ADHD, but once it has been diagnosed, it's already become a problem and is therefore sometimes too late to correct it. I suppose that in a nutshell, bad school teaching methods can also play a part!