Whatever happened to equality?...

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Socoder -> On Topic -> Whatever happened to equality?...
Tue, 13 Jun 2017, 19:15
steve_ancell	This kind of thing really pisses me off. We are all expected by law and society to include openness to any race, religion, and indeed colour; yet I stumble upon a site whos mission is 'To maximize the impact of Black software engineers', where the fuck is the equality here then! www.devcolor.org/about-main/ --- And that my fellow coders came up as a result of a Google search about Dev Cruch.
Tue, 13 Jun 2017, 19:21
steve_ancell	I was just curious to see if Jay's philosophy was fulfilled. From current newsletter "It's only a matter of time before DevCrunch reemerges"
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 01:52
Jayenkai	I don't see A) what that has to do with DevCrunch, and B) Why it should be an issue. It's a group of developers forming a community. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 02:08
spinal	I can see both points here. On the one hand, who cares WHY they are promoting software developers. However, to make assumptions about their skill level based on the colour of their skin is racism, positive discrimination is still discrimination. I have no doubt that a lot of people would flip their lids if people when around promoting coders specifically because they were white. -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 04:00
steve_ancell	This ain't just a rant Jay, I really do have a valid point here. Thanks for seeing my point spinal. That site seems to suggest that black people are the only ones that are struggling, and yeah, if any of us were to start a help forum that's aimed at "struggling white people" then we would be shut down by the authorities in an instant. Why a small group of "black engineers" would think of a pro-black organisation is beyond me, and considering that they have a few white people on their team, why they don't at least put a message across that they are open to all colours and hues. I am also puzzled why an enquiry into whether DevCrunch is still a dead horse would lead to me stumbling upon this.
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 04:07
steve_ancell	It should be a site about helping all coders to get onto the path of opportunity, and should be renamed Devortunity rather than DevColor.
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 04:20
Jayenkai	We may not say "White people's forum", but they exist. I'm fairly sure this site is a "White people's forum". "White Men's Forum" might be better suited.. There also aren't many women here. I think we've had 2. And they didn't stick around. Labelling yourself as pro-black simply gives people the feeling that they're welcome there. It might not be "correct", but it's the way things work online. You have to brand yourself in a way that says "YOU, specifically, are welcome here". FWIW : Anyone's welcome here, even those who complain that the site looks old -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 04:26
steve_ancell	I'm aware of what you say is true, but you do see my point though right!
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 04:30
Jayenkai	Indeed. If we specifically said "The Grumpy Old White Men Forum", then I'm sure folk would complain their arses off about it. But you've got as much chance of getting a complaint in as you do with these. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 04:40
spinal	Can't we all just get along... View on YouTube -=-=- Check out my excellent homepage!
Wed, 14 Jun 2017, 05:34
steve_ancell	Hey, why in that advert am I only seein' black and white?; where's all the Chinese, Japanese, Asians, French, Germans, Polish.....? : --- Ducks down to avoid flying rotten fruit and vegetables