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Socoder -> On Topic -> BizSpark users, be warned

Fri, 18 Mar 2016, 13:09
GfK
If you're signed up to BizSpark, make damn sure that whatever you download, you burn to DVD.

They make the claim that when your BizSpark expires (as mine now has), that you can keep all the software you got from it. Great.

BUT!!

They will no longer let you download it! Yes, they'll let you look at the licence keys you've claimed, but that's it. If you didn't make a backup, you're fucked.

And I'm fucked, because I cannot find the DVD I burned Office 2013 to.
Fri, 18 Mar 2016, 13:36
Jayenkai
If you have a legitimate license key, it'll work on a torrented download of office 2013, just as well as their version.
They limit the time you can download it so that people don't end up using their server as "the Office download center"...

I know that MS frequently host torrents of Windows DVD ISOs, so they probably also do Office 2013's, too... Maybe.!

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Mon, 21 Mar 2016, 14:29
GfK
THERE IS GOOD NEWS!

I found my Office 2013 DVD! \o/

BUT THERE IS ALSO BAD NEWS!

I've just discovered that there is no facility in Windows 10 to NOT install certain updates, and as such, my PC is currently downloading masses of updates for Office 2013, even though I've only got Excel and Word installed. So it's going to downloads hundreds of MBs then go "actually, I didn't even need that".
Mon, 21 Mar 2016, 14:37
rockford
I'm lucky - I use an Office that is no longer supported at all. No extra bloatware for me!!
Mon, 21 Mar 2016, 14:58
GfK
Windows 10 is activated via "digital entitlement", whatever that means.

I have a key from my old Win8 installation but I dunno if it was the Pro version or what. It didn't even come with one of those licence key labels, I had to hax0r it out of the registry.

But apparently I'll have more flexibility with Windows updates if I upgrade to Win10 Pro.
Mon, 21 Mar 2016, 15:05
Jayenkai
We all know that "pro" versions of Windows are just "features you'll rarely ever use, but that you need once in a blue moon, and that we know we can charge you an arm and a leg for"

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Mon, 21 Mar 2016, 15:16
GfK
Comes as no surprise that my Windows 8 licence key doesn't work in Windows 10, then. :/
Tue, 22 Mar 2016, 05:34
Dabz
That digital entitlement thing is mostly the fact that you never had to enter a product key when upgrading... Why they didnt just call it something like "auto activation", you know, a bit of English that makes sense!

For me, and maybe anyone else that upgrades, when you reinstall windows 10 (I created a USB installer using that tool thing from the Windows website) again, you dont need to input your old product key and activate it, because, it'll automatically do this (Apparently this is the "digital entitlement" thing)

Though, there is a few ways which this will fail with certain genuine keys, I "think" it's down to the fact where they came from, I'm sure I read that retail keys dont work, and quite possibly MSDN subscription keys, which leads me to believe your using a Bizspark key.

EDIT: And just for the record, that's how I think this upgrade thing works after what I've read... But in reality... Fuck knows!

Dabz

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Tue, 22 Mar 2016, 05:45
Jayenkai
Be careful if you change ANY specs, though. Apparently the digital entitlement license is firmly locked to overly specific stats.

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Tue, 22 Mar 2016, 06:44
GfK
Dabz: My laptop (Lenovo) came with Windows 8. It doesn't have a licence sticker anywhere which is why I dug into the registry beforehand.

So it's probably one of those mass licence keys that laptop manufacturers use, and likely why Windows 10 didn't like it.