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Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 01:12
Jayenkai
Quit focusing on that, it's already destroyed one site.
Focus on rebuilding.

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Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 03:37
ando
Hey guys, if you find a suitable forum / new home for the community, let us know! Thanks, and I'll keep looking too.
Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 03:54
angros47
As Kuron pointed out, maybe a competition would have worked even with no prize at all, besides the glory. In the past,, I remember that most competitions had no prizes (although nowadays, with all the employers offering jobs paid with "exposure", creators are more diffident.

Point is: a money prize was promised, and not kept. Then, new promised were made, despite no one needed a new contest. So, either money was available (so, the previous winner was deceived) or there was no money (then, participants to the new contest were deceived); in both case, someone was being deceived. Can we trust the forum and any initiative on it, after that?
Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 04:02
angros47
About finding another place, would

https://www.blitzbasic.org/

be suitable?
Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 04:17
ando
At the Blitz one, I might be able to post my App Game Kit Studio stuff in the General discussion section? LOL

There is also a free forum that is not being used at https://gamedevresort.freeforums.net
We could always regroup there too and try to sort things out?
Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 05:37
Jayenkai
There's also TIGSource. That used to be handy, back in the day, though it's more about final results than it is development.

You're all welcome to stay here, of course, but you will have to put up with being an arsehole at times.

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Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 06:22
ando
Edit, nevermind...
Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 09:15
Pixel_Outlaw
This forum seems cozy enough.
I also find its look and layout really refreshing in a drab world.

TigSource has become too political for me, I'll just leave it at that.

I see there's acceptance of games and projects in multiple languages here which is important to me. Truth be told, I was only using BlitzMax recently because I wanted to go back 18 years to what I used to use out of nostalgia. To that end I'm currently writing a game in it and a very traditional feeling Lisp dialect since that's usually done in C not BlitzMax.

Here's the deal for me.
I'm really tired of programming being an antisocial mostly career driven thing.
I think it's sad that people just silently push high quality projects to GitHub.
I think it's sad that hobbiest and hacker (MIT sense of the word) cultures have been usurped by startup culture to such a great extent.
Currently when you're programming one of three things happen.
The code goes silently into GitHub with no discussion.
The code goes into a corporate database of glue code for huge frameworks.
The code is a quick one off for a game jam that gets six or so low quality posts.

That's not building community like a forum does.
I think it's very important that community is built around personal projects in order to keep people going - especially people who build projects like games that involve other people trying and using them.


So anyway, yeah I'll probably stick around this forum.
I'm simply looking for a community with a healthy outlook that discusses personal projects written in any language. I've written three games in 3 Lisp dialects for example and a few in Python as well as a long history of BlitzMax, C++, and in my early days Game Maker.
Fri, 06 Jun 2025, 11:24
Kuron
I've written three games in 3 Lisp dialects for example


I am far more interested in developing for retro consoles these days, but do need a thing or two for the masses and something cross-platform.and recently have been reading up on Racket (A Lisp derivative). It quickly reminded me of how long it has been since I used Lisp and how "wordy" Lisp can "appear" when compared to other languages. Hat is off to anybody using Lisp routinely for games.
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 15:35
RemiD
hi guys,

not sure exactly what happened, and a little sad to see that syntaxbomb forum is gone.

thanks Jayenkai to allow a thread on socoder forum to talk about that here. _/\_

blitzbasic.org forum is horrible with the constant ads... and it already closed once without warning, therefore not ready to contribute again...

socoder.com forum, why not, i have an account now, we'll see...

syntaxboom.com forum, why not, but i don't manage to register, can somebody help me ?
what is the answer to the anti bots question :


(i wrote 'pork', it did not work, then 'beef', it did not work...)

@Jayenkai >> your anti bots question is quite smart, well thought ahah (with the fake characters on the image to trick the bots)
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 17:08
angros47
Maybe "sausage"?
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 18:12
Kuron
LOL @ the anti bot question Dabz is using.

As for Syntax Bomb closing. Keep in mind this is not the first time. I forget why it closed before, but IIRC it was closed for a year or two (or was it more) and only brought back when the official Blitz community disappeared. Qube stepped up and gave part of the community a place to go.

Who knows what the future holds? But it is generally not good manners to go in somebody's house and verbally trash them. It is Qube's ball, the game is over when he decided to pick up HIS ball and go home. Would not blame him if "this is it" this time. Life is too short to deal with dildos like he was having to deal with.
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 18:34
angros47
If you are wondering what happened, I linked a screenshot.

True, the forum has been already closed with no warning, and reopened after few days, but each time it happened, it undermined it's credibility. I am not going to post on a platform that can delete all my contents just because the owner is upset.

By the way, this time the issue was worse. I admit that when I read the complaint I was considering to leave the forum myself, in case it were confirmed, but Qube closed the forum before that. Even if it reopened, I wouldn't go back, unless I heard for sure that Morpheus's issue were solved in satisfying way.
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 19:18
Qube
@angros47, you linked to a screenshot of one persons point of view and not the entire full story. But that is not for debate on this forum nor will I engage in a he said / she said mud slinging match. SyntaxBomb is closed and will not be reopening.

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Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 21:09
Naughty Alien
Qube, i say, open that forum back, and dont bother with 'gimme da money' nonsense..its hobbyists and enthusiasts forum..if there is some prize to win and share, fine..if not, so what?? Whoever is that hard for money on such forum, i say, dear genius, go to EA Games and score billions..you can do it..just buzz off from enthusiasts place as your are not one..
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 21:56
Kuron
Another example of why we can't have nice things. One (or two) rotten apple(s) will spoil the bunch. Qube deserves a thank you from the entire community for keeping it going for so long and helping everybody. Seem to remember he even did a pretty kick ass Christmas Match-3 game which for whatever reason he decided not to sell, and instead released the code & graphics to the community.

Thank you for everything Qube. Everything you did was appreciated very much by the vast majority.
Sun, 08 Jun 2025, 22:25
ando
Thanks for sharing that info angros47, I was wondering why we all got kicked.
Mon, 09 Jun 2025, 01:00
angros47
@Qube
You said your version of the story. I just shared a screenshot with the other person's point of view. I don't know the full story, and I don't know if either of you is telling the truth or not, so I'll trust only the details you both agree on. Both versions of the story say that:
-you made a contest, and offered a prize in money
-that person won the contest
-you didn't pay the promised prize, telling them to wait
-they understood your situation and accepted a delay
-you made other contests, again promising a prize in money (hence showing that you now had the money)
-when they asked again, you refused
-they made the issue public
-you closed the forum

Sorry, but I can't approve that. And I am surprised to see how some other people, instead, consider that perfectly legit. If the community's point of view is that, I don't want to be part of such a community.

@Naughty Alien, in another post you offered to solve the issue by paying out of your own pocket... Are you going to do it for real?
Mon, 09 Jun 2025, 01:47
Naughty Alien
@Angros
Yes, i said that, and yes thats what i mean assuming that site was back as i said as well so that such forum that was, will exist as i valued it more than that prize ..so yes..I said that including having site back and having those 'gimme da money' characters kick out six ways from sunday from that site..thats exactly what i said, not just 'gimme da money' part...what a jokers..
Mon, 09 Jun 2025, 02:00
angros47
So you, too, blamed the victim, and promised money that you weren't planning to give. Got it.

Farewell.
Mon, 09 Jun 2025, 02:01
Jayenkai
Right, this thread's going in circles. I'm closing this thread. If you want to argue about the "did/did not/should/should not", you can do it elsewhere. This argument has already obliterated one forum, and I'm damned if I'm having it do the same here.

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