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Socoder -> Site & Server -> Supporting Modern File Formats |
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 03:07 | |
Jayenkai
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Supporting Modern TechnologyKuron  .avif file has been a new standard for several years SoCoder was created in 2006, then entirely rewritten in 2017. Apparently the .avif format came out in 2019. I stand by my argument that .avif is new. Bloody modern stuff. Pah. Right, if I'm delving into the code... Are there any other files/formats that you think the site oughta support? -=-=- ''Load, Next List!'' 
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 03:28 | |
cyangames
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Check if php (GDLib / imagemagick) supports them also first  I know GDLib added extra type support since PHP 7.4 /8.0 www.php.net/manual/en/function.imageavif.php Yup 8.0 -=-=- Web / Game Dev, occasionally finishes off coding games also! |
| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 03:30 | |
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Jayenkai
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Yeah, it says it does, but I'd need to triple check first. Last thing we need is the site crapping itself because some silly developer decided WebP wasn't compressed enough.
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 05:42 | |
cyangames
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yarp, makes sense to
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 09:49 | |
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Jayenkai
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Hey, ChatGPT, what other file formats should I let people upload, willy nilly, to my server? What about .html and .php files? Developers use those all the time! LOL.. Sure, ok, ChatGPT.. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 11:00 | |
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Jayenkai
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OK, .avif is allowable in the BBCode, but isn't allowable for uploads, because .. It's doing something weird with the resulting images, and I'm not sure what, and I'm not sure why, and I'm not 100% happy with the security of that.. Blame PHP, maybe?! ChatGPT suggested I try using ImageMagik, but IMO, if something might be corruptible with plain PHP, then god only knows what could happen if I try adding more layers. So, no uploading, but you can link to them. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 11:03 | |
Pixel_Outlaw
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Hehe ImageMagik has a really bizarre inconsistent nasty interface. It kind of wants to be a programming language without being a programming language. |
| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 12:00 | |
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cyangames
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Yup, it's weird in PHP there's kinda 3 ways of using it, each one is very version / server dependant as I've found when making many auto-images. It doesn't help when sometimes a server bod flicks a switch and boom, all your image generation fails silently!( yes, that happened today and I found a way through with GDLib instead
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 12:03 | |
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cyangames
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If it's not working then I guess just apply a filter to the uploader in an html attribute maybe? Or scan it's mime-type upon upload. Orrr just leave a message on the uploader saying: "Hey! No Fancy AVIF's / HEIC's ya weirdo!" -=-=- Web / Game Dev, occasionally finishes off coding games also! |
| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 14:49 | |
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Kuron |
MS didn't support AVIF in Edge until around a year ago, not that MS is a beacon of rationality. I try to always put stuff in PostImage now, as long as the forum code supports it, I am happy. One other thing that would really help is support for Rumble's code it gives for sharing a video, like you do for YT. X, BSky and others all support Rumble videos now. Not sure what you would have to do for rumble. https://rumble.com/embed/v6sgm99/?pub=4kv62u https://rumble.com/v6unii3-brian-wilson-of-the-beach-boys-has-passed-away-at-the-age-of-82.html Otherwise, just links. |
| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 14:54 | |
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Kuron |
IMHO, ImageMagik would be overkill for what you asked ChatGPT. That said, I have used CoolText since it first appeared and I believe it uses ImageMagik under the hood. Great and reliable but not needed for simply loading an AVIF
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 15:07 | |
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Jayenkai
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 15:18 | |
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Kuron |
Song made me think, WEBP was supposed to be the greatest thing since two ply toilet paper a few years back, but has pretty much been bitched out by AVIF. Think the only major source of WEBP files nowadays are WordPress-based sites. Really hard to keep up anymore. Still doing PNGs for things, but heavily optimizing them. |
| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 15:24 | |
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Jayenkai
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.webp is the default for thumbnails here, now. I made that change a couple of years ago when I started uploading daily AI generated pics to my blog, and came to the conclusion that I'd better optimise them a little bit. Had to flick through all the images, site wide, and generate _thumb.webp companions to everything, before uploading and fixing up the script. I don't think anyone noticed the change. -=-=- ''Load, Next List!''
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 16:13 | |
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Kuron |
About a year ago, I was looking to use .webp on what I was working on, then I found a killer PNG optimizer and could get PNGs that were smaller than the .webp and looked just as good (if not better). Unfortunately, I Have no idea what optimizer that was and can't find it now.
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| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 16:41 | |
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cyangames
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tinypng.com is very good I did find a PHP implementation which I had trawl works website and then save a fair bit of space. -=-=- Web / Game Dev, occasionally finishes off coding games also! |
| Thu, 12 Jun 2025, 16:46 | |
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Kuron |
Thanks.
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